Small Raised Brick Pond.

[rodcon00]

Looks great!!!

If I may I would suggest a different fish. You may want to consider white cloud mountain minnows. They are very hardy fish some firends of mine in NC leave them in their ponds year round.

[krisw]

You may want to consider white cloud mountain minnows

But with the minnows can you put 10 in and pull our 300 in 3 months time?

Also, we have bull frogs that tend to end up in any standing water in buckets/tubs that fill up with rain water. I'm sure it's a matter of time before they're in here. Simple question... Do frogs eat fish?

[Amiga276]

As far as I know the frogs in this area only eat insects.

[rodcon00]

I had no idea you wanted to set up an outdoor Endler's facility. FYI Enlder's have finally received a scientific name they are now known as "Poecilia wingei". Here is a link to an article concerning the naming.

http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/p ... p?news=889

I thought you were only concerned about the temperature swings. The white clouds will definitely spawn outdoors. You might want to throw in some java moss to give the eggs a place to hang out until they hatch. The adults do eat some of the young. I also believe that the young eat each other. If you want to see the fry you can go out at night and shine a flashlight on the top of the water.

The frogs will most likely spawn in your construction and leave you with a ton of tadpoles in the water. Friends of mine in PA have a large pond in their yard and I was amazed at the shear number of tadpoles in the water. There were so many that even the Goldfish were not interested in eathing them any more. Also there were thousands of minnow (Rainbow Shiner variety) fry in the pond and there did not seem to be any predator in the pond.

[krisw]

Quite interesting stuff Rodney, thanks! I'm not entirely interested in making millions of endlers, was just joking around. If anything, I imagine those minnows will move faster than the endler, being a more interesting target for my dogs to watch as she lies on top, drinking from the pond.

[DelawareJim]

The thing that's a shame is that Poeser, Kempkes and Isbrucker have named the Endler's livebearer as Poecilia wingei since they published their study in a paper in the journal Contributions to Zoology.

Franklin Bond or John Endler would have had the opportunity to name the find what ever they wished if they had formally published. It could have easily been Poecilia bondii or Poecilia endler.

Ah yes, the quibbles of priority in the general principles of nomemclature.

Cheers.
Jim

[Ltrepeter2000]

Kris

Depends on the frog. Their are Bullfrogs in the DC area that will eat just about anything that moves from Endlers, minnows, white clouds, crayfish, and on and on. Most of the frogs primarily will eat insects though and most of the fish listed will reproduce enough to outcompete whatever might be eaten. You will have more to worry about from birds than frogs but still I dont think that it will be a major concern.

Rob

[DelawareJim]

Kris;

I remember at the meeting we were talking about our Endlers only producing females. I found an interesting site that discusses water temps and it's affect on breeding. It's in the middle of the article. Apparently higher temps = more females, lower temps = more males.

http://www.endlersr.us/lib_water.htm

I think I'm going to have to change my set up; give them more room and a different light. I currently have mine in my original 2.5 and tried the new light for the contest. No more green water, but the temp jumped 10'. Even with the legs, that tank hits 80' by the end of the day.

Cheers.
Jim

[fredyk]

What's the temperature, these days, of the backyard hot tank, er, fish pond?
Mark

[krisw]

What's the temperature, these days, of the backyard hot tank, er, fish pond?

The surface temperture is hovering around 90-95 degrees at the peak of the day, but a few inches lower, the temperature is noticably lower, and stays in the 70's-low 80's. I've already got at least 1-2 generations of Ender's living it up in there.