http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/permits/guide.asp
Taking aquatic invertebrates, amphibians, reptiles, and nongame fish for private use**
It is lawful to collect and possess live for private use** only, and not for sale, no more than 5 individuals of any non-listed species of amphibian and reptile, and no more than 20 individuals of any non-listed species of aquatic invertebrate and nongame fish (4 VAC 15-360-10). Non-listed terrestrial invertebrates may be taken in unlimited numbers for private use** only.
* ** private use means for use in the home, not for scientific or educational purposes (which requires a permit).
# Haul Seine Permit to Catch Minnows and Chubs for Sale
# Haul Seine Permit to Take Fish for Personal Use
# Haul Seine Permit to Take Nongame Fish for Sale
# Hold and Sell Certain Fish, Snakes, Snapping Turtles, and Hellgrammites for Sale Permit
# Import and Possess Certain Non-Native (Exotic) Wildlife in Virginia
# Import Tilapia and Clawed Frogs
# Licensed Shooting Preserve Application
# Nonresident Harvester's Permit to Take or Catch Fish in Back Bay and its Tributaries
looks like we need to get a permit for VA.
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Bob, think small, small fish. Bluespot sunnies, minnows, and darters are good ideas. Mosquito fish for people setting up ponds. Do you know where to find rainwater killifish?
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Jeff, In VA you can catch non-game fish with certain types of nets and posses up to 20 non-game species and up to 50 "minnows". You just need a VA fishing license and you have to follow other regulations (such as no nets in trout waters).JMLenke wrote:http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/permits/guide.asp
Taking aquatic invertebrates, amphibians, reptiles, and nongame fish for private use**
It is lawful to collect and possess live for private use** only, and not for sale, no more than 5 individuals of any non-listed species of amphibian and reptile, and no more than 20 individuals of any non-listed species of aquatic invertebrate and nongame fish (4 VAC 15-360-10). Non-listed terrestrial invertebrates may be taken in unlimited numbers for private use** only.
* ** private use means for use in the home, not for scientific or educational purposes (which requires a permit).
# Haul Seine Permit to Catch Minnows and Chubs for Sale
# Haul Seine Permit to Take Fish for Personal Use
# Haul Seine Permit to Take Nongame Fish for Sale
# Hold and Sell Certain Fish, Snakes, Snapping Turtles, and Hellgrammites for Sale Permit
# Import and Possess Certain Non-Native (Exotic) Wildlife in Virginia
# Import Tilapia and Clawed Frogs
# Licensed Shooting Preserve Application
# Nonresident Harvester's Permit to Take or Catch Fish in Back Bay and its Tributaries
looks like we need to get a permit for VA.
Check out this link http://www.dgif.state.va.us/fishing/reg ... ongame.asp[/url]
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Sonny Disposition
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Hi folks. A few points to consider:
I don't know Virginia that well, so I didn't suggest any Virginia sites.
( I can check with Virginia NANFA members, if that's the consensus where we want to go.)
There are limitations to collecting plants. Part of that is that I haven't focused on plants--my interest is in the fish, and I tend to stick with a few favorites that I can rely on to serve as vegetative filters. Also, Maryland has no natural lakes or ponds. (I think Virginia is similar in this respect.) The upland streams I'm most familiar with are too fast flowing for plants to get established. Impoundments tend to be limited to comparatively few species. There is some Val in the Potomac, however, along with lots of hydrilla, which I think is illegal to transport.
People have mentioned lakes in their areas. While I'm not familiar with these, I can tell you that most impoundments are stocked with bluegills and largemouth bass and aren't suited to too many other species. I don't recommend either species--they both can get large and nasty, especially the males, as they will destroy a carefully landscaped setup.
The longear sunfish I mentioned are neat, but I should also point out that spawning males also destroy carefully planted tanks. (This is easy planning and collecting though, as all you need is a fishing license, light tackle, tiny hooks, and night crawlers.)
If we're sticking to small species, I'm thinking Little Bennett is our best option, for fantail darters, sculpins, rosy side and longnose dace, and nondescript silvery shiners. In a home aquarium these species appreciate a strong current to mimic their natural habitat.
Someone mentioned bluespotted sunnies. I think these are in the Po and Ni Rivers, but I'm not sure of locations (since those are in is Virginia) so I'd have to ask.
I don't know Virginia that well, so I didn't suggest any Virginia sites.
( I can check with Virginia NANFA members, if that's the consensus where we want to go.)
There are limitations to collecting plants. Part of that is that I haven't focused on plants--my interest is in the fish, and I tend to stick with a few favorites that I can rely on to serve as vegetative filters. Also, Maryland has no natural lakes or ponds. (I think Virginia is similar in this respect.) The upland streams I'm most familiar with are too fast flowing for plants to get established. Impoundments tend to be limited to comparatively few species. There is some Val in the Potomac, however, along with lots of hydrilla, which I think is illegal to transport.
People have mentioned lakes in their areas. While I'm not familiar with these, I can tell you that most impoundments are stocked with bluegills and largemouth bass and aren't suited to too many other species. I don't recommend either species--they both can get large and nasty, especially the males, as they will destroy a carefully landscaped setup.
The longear sunfish I mentioned are neat, but I should also point out that spawning males also destroy carefully planted tanks. (This is easy planning and collecting though, as all you need is a fishing license, light tackle, tiny hooks, and night crawlers.)
If we're sticking to small species, I'm thinking Little Bennett is our best option, for fantail darters, sculpins, rosy side and longnose dace, and nondescript silvery shiners. In a home aquarium these species appreciate a strong current to mimic their natural habitat.
Someone mentioned bluespotted sunnies. I think these are in the Po and Ni Rivers, but I'm not sure of locations (since those are in is Virginia) so I'd have to ask.
Bob
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Sonny Disposition
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Another option:
A Potomac River Snakehead hunt. There are several wadeable sites, from Little Hunting Creek southward. We went last summer, but didn't get one, so I think our odds will be slim. Also, they're illegal to transport, so if we catch one, we're obligated to euthanize it.
Other than that, we're most likely to get the larger Lepomis sunfish species and white perch, which get just a little on the large side for a home aquarium. There are also striped killifish. Males get an attractive light blue during spawning season. They are aquarium size, but they do get a little nasty.
A Potomac River Snakehead hunt. There are several wadeable sites, from Little Hunting Creek southward. We went last summer, but didn't get one, so I think our odds will be slim. Also, they're illegal to transport, so if we catch one, we're obligated to euthanize it.
Other than that, we're most likely to get the larger Lepomis sunfish species and white perch, which get just a little on the large side for a home aquarium. There are also striped killifish. Males get an attractive light blue during spawning season. They are aquarium size, but they do get a little nasty.
Bob
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Also, someone mentioned collecting gambusia for their ponds.
I don't recommend gambusia for anything other than a species only tank or for feeding to piscivorous species. It's debatable how many mosquito larvae gambusia actually eat. They're also reputed to prey upon the eggs and larvae of more desireable species.
Gambusia look a lot like common guppies, only without the color and with a really bad attitude. I've seen a school chew the tailfins off much larger minnows.
I don't recommend gambusia for anything other than a species only tank or for feeding to piscivorous species. It's debatable how many mosquito larvae gambusia actually eat. They're also reputed to prey upon the eggs and larvae of more desireable species.
Gambusia look a lot like common guppies, only without the color and with a really bad attitude. I've seen a school chew the tailfins off much larger minnows.
Bob
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I like this idea the best so far. I think those are the types of fish that most of us would like to catch.Sonny Disposition wrote:If we're sticking to small species, I'm thinking Little Bennett is our best option, for fantail darters, sculpins, rosy side and longnose dace, and nondescript silvery shiners. In a home aquarium these species appreciate a strong current to mimic their natural habitat.
I agree that from what you've suggested that the Little Bennett might be the best option for the largest amount of people. I'm curious for myself, if you have any locations for Pumpkinseeds (Lepomis gibbosus)? Can they be caught on small hooks too?
I guess the next question, is what would our limits be in terms of the number of fish we can responsibly (or legally) take from the Little Bennett. The reason I ask is that I assume most of these dace and shiners are schoolers, so you wouldn't want to put just one or two in a tank, right?
Thanks for all this information! I'm really looking forward to this trip!
I guess the next question, is what would our limits be in terms of the number of fish we can responsibly (or legally) take from the Little Bennett. The reason I ask is that I assume most of these dace and shiners are schoolers, so you wouldn't want to put just one or two in a tank, right?
Thanks for all this information! I'm really looking forward to this trip!
